Karl Sakas has been working in the digital marketing industry since he was 15 years old, and today he draws on that experience to help fast growing agencies scale profitably by avoiding the common growing pains.
Through his Raleigh, North Carolina-based consultancy, Sakas and Company, Karl has worked with clients in 19 different countries and 6 continents (still waiting for that Antarctica dev shop, though), and has seen it all. In today’s chat, he pulls back the curtain to show us the strategies he implements to help agency owners take back control of their agency and scale profitably.Learning to manage client expectations is crucial for digital agencies, says @KarlSakas (PODCAST) Click To Tweet
If you’re already stressed out with your current projects and scared about things spiraling out of control as you grow, then get out your pen and paper because Karl lays out everything you need to take back control of your agency.
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Set your expectations from the very beginning (3:30 – 15:15)
While we all love ranting about the latest “crazy client” story, few agency owners want to accept that sometimes they are to blame for their client’s behavior. Most problems stem from the beginning of the relationship when you first bring a client on board.
Many of your clients may be working with an agency for the first time, while others have worked with agencies before, but each agency has their own way of doing things. From day one you are training your clients how to treat you, so you need to make it clear how you work. If you don’t have a set way of working (whether it is billing, the approval process, rush rates, etc.) then you let the client’s behavior takeover. If you’re lucky, this works fine, but other times it leads to the stories you read on sites like Clients From Hell.
In an agency, you are delivering projects every day, so if you fly by the seat of your pants, you’ll probably do okay because you know what you’re doing. Your clients, however, do not do this every day, and they are coming to you expecting you, the expert, to drive the process.
This doesn’t mean you throw a 50-page document at them covering rules that you don’t even know yourself; it means you cover the basics. Start by identifying the problems that have often come up in the past (like waiting for content from the client, or launching a site without adding the Google Analytics tracking code, etc.) and establish internal controls (this could be as simple as a Google Doc that you review at the start of a new project) to make sure you don’t make the same mistakes.
By driving the process, and actually having a process, you don’t just give your client confidence that you know what you are doing, but you make your own job easier by making sure things stay on track.
If you don’t like process, it’s hard to successfully run an agency (17:30 – 31:45)
While many people start their agency because they wanted to break free of the corporate world, the fact remains that unless they also embrace the importance of processes, running an agency is going to be a daily struggle. Processes don’t have to weigh you down, instead, they help save you from yourself by taking the decisions out of your hands.
You can have a policy for anything, but here are some of the importance areas to start with:
- Turnaround time
- What counts as a rush rate (and what your rush rate is)
- How you bill for mileage and travel time
- Whether or not you bill for phone calls
- When you start work (do you require a deposit? If not, you should)
So much of the conflict in the client and agency relationship comes from surprises and most of that can be avoided by being as upfront as you can about everything. You don’t always have to go by the book, but you want to at least have a book to fall back on.
Be intentional (37:10 – 41:00)
If you’re resistant to process and want to make it up as you go, that’s always an option, but your life is going to suck as a result. It’s hard to grow when you are constantly putting out fires that could have been prevented with proper planning. Don’t make your life harder than it needs to be.
When dealing with a new client, especially when you aren’t flush with cash, it’s easy to acquiesce on some of their outlandish requests and behavior. It’s a lot easier than having the hard conversation of explaining what behavior is and isn’t okay, but in the long run, you are going to pay for this.
There are always going to be problems, but that doesn’t mean you should just throw in the towel instead of trying to solve them. With an attitude of continuous improvement, you can treat these problems as learning experiments and build processes to avoid them from happening again.
After every project, Karl recommends that you debrief by asking yourself 3 questions:
- What worked?
- What didn’t work?
- What are we going to do differently next time?
While it may seem like too big of a mess to clean up right now, as you slowly pick away at it and improve the way you run your business, you are going to find yourself relieved at just how much easier things can be when you develop your processes and establish those expectations from the very beginning.
Want to learn more?
Karl has more than 160 different articles covering every facet of running and growing a digital agency over on his site, SakasAndCompany.com. I’ve linked a few of the articles mentioned below but check out the resources section of Karl’s site to get a full list of all the content he has available.
If you’re just looking for a simple way to get started, check out Karl’s article on Reaching Your Goals Faster with an Advance Retrospective.
There is a ton there, so give yourself some time to reflect on the lessons instead of trying to consume everything in one sitting.
- Book: The In-Demand Marketing Agency
- eBook: Don’t Just Make the Logo Bigger
- Article: How to start a digital marketing agency
- Article:Building debriefs into your process
- Article: The Client Ranking Matrix
- Podcast: Matt Inglot on Turning $10k projects into $100k relationships
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